Tue 21 Aug 2007
Guest post: Nursing toddlers is the new black
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I’m happy to up my street cred today with a guest post from the lovely and talented Azúcar, of The Jet Set. Thank you Azúcar.
Nursing toddlers is the new black
Now that Gwen Stefani is still nursing her toddler, I wonder if extended nursing will be the newest, coolest thing. I want it on record: I did it before Gwen made it cool. I nursed my first baby until he was 2.5 year old. I intend on nursing all my babies that long. I’m not about to write a long treatise on how nursing into childhood is or isn’t for everyone, but it was for us.
I bet some of you are curious how it all worked, so I’m spilling the beans, pull up a bowl.
When I was pregnant with El Guille, I had a conversation with my mom and baby sister. Baby sister and I both voiced our opinions that when a baby can walk and talk, they can be done with nursing. These opinions were based on…who knows what they were based on?! We were just parroting what we’d heard here and there. My mom looked a little funny. “Well,” she said, “I nursed each of you past a year. And you, baby sister, the longest of all. You were three.” That planted a seed. If I’d weaned El Guille when he could walk, he would have been 9 months.
We had a hard time nursing at first. I got some poor medical advice that cut my supply and it was a devil of a time trying to bring it back. We had a nursing strike at 7 months that was so emotional. That’s why when I got to 12 months I took a look around; El Guille didn’t want to stop, and neither did I.
What were our options? I’m a big one for researching my decisions and not taking anything at face value. I thought about nursing logically: how was it that breast milk is the most perfect food for the first 365 days of your baby’s life and then on day 366, it goes rotten and sour? Call me out, but I couldn’t think of a single other bodily function or procedure that was so tied to the Gregorian calendar. You can read about the benefits here if you desire the details.
If you know me, you’d probably guess that when we decided to nurse past a year, it was worthy of an announcement. You’re lucky you didn’t see an ad in the paper. “Azucar and her family would like the pleasure of informing you that they do the unthinkable in our America: they plan on nursing until their babies are at least two years old. In lieu of gifts, please buy a Boppy and burn a bra.”
When I told my mom and dad that I was planning on going until El Guille was at least two they were pleased. I kind of joked with my dad that at least Guille would stop by the time he went to school. “Why? The longer, the better.” said my dad, quite seriously. School age is a little over the line, for me anyway. My in-laws weren’t as openly supportive. My mother-in-law thought it was a little strange, but she’s a really good person who believes that I’m the mother and I make the best decisions for my babies. I love her for that.
Some people think that when you’re nursing a toddler it’s like nursing a newborn: every two hours and time intensive. It’s not at all. For us, we nursed twice a day, occasionally three times, from age 16 months to 22 months. At 22 months, he refused to sit still and wanted to play first thing, not nurse. Hey! Fine by me! We kept our bedtime nursing for the next seven months. He gradually slowed down, dropping a session here and there: he went to every other day, to twice a week, then once, and then it was over. El Guille weaned himself: no tears, no drama, and no big deal. So much for the “If you don’t wean before a year they’ll NEVER stop” crowd. He stopped when he was ready, and that’s what I wanted for him.
I loved nursing a toddler because they will actually slow down and enjoy snuggle time with you. It was great to know that I didn’t have to worry about his nutrition gap, no ensure or toddler formula. I didn’t have to stress that he didn’t like cow milk. When El Guille was 16 months and got sick from a plane ride we took, the only thing he would keep down was my milk. My pediatrician told me that he was such a severe case that had I not been nursing him, he probably would have been hospitalized for dehydration. It was a great way to sooth bumps and bruises, to stop a tantrum in its tracks. El Guille had manners. He didn’t pull on my shirt and demand to nurse in public. He didn’t run in and out of the room nursing for two seconds, or try to nurse in some gymnastics position. He understood, because I taught him, that we only nursed at home. But that got me thinking…
Women who nurse their babies into toddler or childhood have been in a back bedroom for too long. More women than you know nurse past a year. I found out that two of my downstairs neighbors had each nursed their babies for over two years. Another neighbor came for a visit and mentioned something about her one year old nursing. I asked how long she usually nursed. She got embarrassed and said, “Well…uhm…a long time.” “Me too!” I squealed, “How long is a long time?” She said that her first was 2 years and her second, 3. I was at church on Sunday and went into the women’s lounge to nurse Proximo. I found a mom there with her 2 year old. The mom was a little nervous. I told her how awesome it was that she was still nursing, and she relaxed.
Why is this not even an issue in the rest of the world? Why is it ok to feed your human child milk from a cow, but not human milk from their own mother? That reasoning doesn’t pass muster with me.
Here’s the deal: until moms start coming out of that back bedroom and telling other people, extended nursing is going to seem strange. There’s nothing wrong with nursing into childhood, it’s how humans were biologically designed. I know it’s not for everyone, but it is natural. I want other women to understand that it’s ok to listen to your heart and make decisions that might seem unusual to other Americans. Most of all, there’s nothing like nursing a little child. They are so grateful, so happy to be there. They want to spend that close time with you, gazing into your eyes, playing little finger games, just being near you.
I wonder if El Guille remembers nursing. It’s been one year and four months since we stopped, written in my heart like all mother’s milestones. Just last week, he called me into his room. He asked if we could sit in the rocking chair together. That rocking chair is where we used to nurse near the end. He crawled up onto my lap, folding up his arms and legs—limbs that are now elongating and becoming thinner, like a real boy. He placed his head on that space under my neck. “Can I have some milk from here?” He patted my chest. “No,” I said, “You’re a big boy now.”
(If you’re looking for me, I am jumping into the fray over at Mormon Mommy Wars today, where I play Sir Links-a-lot and attempt to debunk a myth that women of a certain age don’t blog.)
August 21st, 2007 at 9:57 am
So I love being first to comment at my own blog–even if it is someone else’s fabulous post.
Here’s where I get to say I was cool before Gwen made it cool, too. The funny thing is, extended nursing may seem odd when you contemplate it before you are in the position to make a choice about it, but then it does seem and feel perfectly natural.
I experienced many of the same ups and downs as Azúcar–struggles early on with not enough milk, a late nursing strike that just didn’t feel right, and having to work hard to be successful at what everyone else made seem so effortless. But it was worth it. Aside from the health benefits both for me and my baby I can say that the best part was the snuggling.
Now my kids are growing into tall and lanky teenagers I think I can appreciate having had that time together now more than ever.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:09 am
This made me take a long look at my judgments and misconceptions regarding extended breastfeeding.
Thank you for that.
Although I, personally, have absolutely no experience with breastfeeding. I feel really bad for the new mom’s who feel flawed when they “fail” breastfeeding. I hope some who are facing the same struggles and barriers you have will read this and keep trying.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:45 am
Great post! I loved breastfeeding and nursed my first until I was ready to get pregnant with my second, so she was a little past two.
Everyone’s got different ideas about when is it ‘too old’. That second year was wonderful, as was the first, but in different ways, as you’ve described.
August 21st, 2007 at 11:45 am
You already know this but I appreciate you. I have no problem coming out of the closet, I’m way too out of the closet on a lot of stuff.
August 21st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Awesome post. I used to be one of those vocal “when they can ask for it in words, it’s over” kind of people. Now, I think it just depends. Nursing has not been my favorite thing. I got the first two to about 10 months, then just did morning and evening until 12 months. #1 got chicken pox the day before his first birthday, so we kept it going about two weeks longer, to ease the trauma. #2 didn’t seem to care. #3 is currently, and has been for several months, in the “gymnastics position” phase.
For me, nursing is uncomfortable, painful (and I know those La Leche people say if it’s painful, you’re doing it wrong, but I know I’m doing it right) and not entirely rewarding, but I know my baby likes it sometimes. Plus, there’s the whole issue of self-esteem: going from an already huge breast size to something ridiculously unproportioned never made me feel too cute.
So I’ve been hanging on by a thread, counting the months until I can proclaim that I did my duty by my child, gave her all the antibodies and vitamins and whatever other magical elixir she needs. But now… I may be persuaded to let her decide when she wants to call it quits.
August 21st, 2007 at 2:38 pm
What a beautiful post. I wish Kalea went longer than 18 months. When she finally decided she didn’t want the boobie anymore… I was the one heartbroken. I used to think that if they can ask for it…time to stop. BUT it was hilariouis that she’d ask for the “boobie”. We’ll see how long Melia decides to nurse. I love that one-on-one time. I love the finger gazes and the gymnastics – I feel so lucky to be needed. It soothes me, while it soothes them.
Thanks CW for having Azucar guest post.
August 21st, 2007 at 5:19 pm
*Sigh*
When they were lining up for breastfeeding genes, I thought they said “basket weaving” and was all like, “no thanks!”
oops.
August 21st, 2007 at 9:00 pm
I’m curious as to the incidence of tandem nursing. I have an 8-month old and we are expecting our next in March (when our first will be 15 months). I had never really planned on quitting nursing so early, but my Dr. seems to think I need to wean him before my third trimester and then I can start up again after. This has been a very emotional decision for me and I’d like to hear some thoughts on the topic from pro-nursing moms.
August 21st, 2007 at 9:44 pm
I know of several moms that tandem nurse, and it used to be far more common than it is now. There is NO medical need to wean before having another unless you want to. Some babies naturally wean when moms get pregnant. I would recommend a book called The Nursing Mother’s Companion Guide that has a good section on tandem nursing.
Here is a link to a great site on tandem.
Just as a follow up, my mom says she was pressured to wean me earlier than she wanted to because the doctor and my father thought it wouldn’t be good for the pregnancy. Of course dad denies ever saying such a thing.
She found out later that it was fine and she has been upset about it ever since.
Sarah k– don’t make yourself a martyr for the cause if you don’t want to! the key to nursing longer is that both parties should be interested. I highly recommend it, but that’s because it’s what worked for me.
B- It’s not too late! Just kidding. You got your blessings a different way than we did and I think that’s splendid.
elizabeth w- welcome out of the backroom!
Martha – you’re the sweetest.
QS–18 months is nothing to sniff at! Like I said, both parties must be amenable.
Carrot – sorry about your ears. Sorry about the basketweaving too, because THAT is a handy skill to have.
August 21st, 2007 at 9:45 pm
p.s. any other questions? Because I’ll answer them, I have no shame.
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 am
I’m so glad I clicked over to this post! It’s everything I wish I was eloquent enough to say, and I think everyone should read it. We need more understanding and acceptance out there, that’s for sure. I’m linking here, btw.
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:27 am
I just want to pop in here and welcome all the newcomers to this blog. Thanks for dropping by and thanks especially for all the great comments. That’s one of the things I love about blogging–the more we share our differing experiences and perspectives, the more understanding we find with one another.
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:53 am
This is just so fine and strong and important. Thank you, both of you! Azucar, this goes into my permanent “A Thing of Beauty” file. Okay, so I don’t actually have one of those, but I’m starting one right now. What a beautiful way to begin this day.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Cheers Azucar!
Loved this line “it’s ok to listen to your heart and make decisions that might seem unusual to other Americans.”
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
From a man’s [father's] point of view: There is something to be said about falling too far to one side of a spectrum. Breastfeeding an eight year old, I think is extreme. Insisting that a baby be weaned by 3 months, 6 months, etc. can also seem extreme. Our kids were nursed longer than a year.
p.s. I think, women/mother’s should never feel ashamed or that something is wrong with them if they have a hard time nursing. Who ever said that we all came out of the exact same mold?
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
I’ll come out of the back room. I nursed most of my kids for a couple of years. I had one that quit, outright, one sunny fall day when she was 9 months old and absolutely refused to ever go back to the breast, but all the rest have been far into their second year.
It’s absolutely ok to follow our kids lead on this. Mine all weaned themselves, no muss, no fuss for me. (well, except for little miss snippy baby, who left me engorged and in pain for two weeks because of her little decision. Dang, and she hasn’t changed a bit…)
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm
Beautiful post!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Just wanted to clarify I was never in the backroom–everyone knew I was breastfeeding past a year and I figured the more people who knew the greater the likelihood the stigma would drop.
I’d planned to nurse our second until she was 3, or whenever she was done, whichever came sooner. Unfortunately, I got sick and was in the hospital for 9 days being fed IV, so my milk dried up. I tried to resume nursing her when I got back home, but she’d sort of switched to a sippy, and was pretty much done. I tried to get her to nurse, for me, but she was done. It was miserable for me because I loved having that cuddle time, all the good nurturing time that happens in that second year. That quick weaning sent me into a major hormone shift and I cried for days and days. Ah….tender memories.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:31 pm
i am a mother that does not enjoy nursing. nor do i like being pregnant for that matter, but that is a different post. i nursed my kids until they were a year old. i have not been blessed with an ample chest, and before we even got to a year, i no longer felt any let down. and my chest was down to almost what it was before (smaller actually….sigh…) i have learned a lot about nursing longer than a year. i don’t know what i will do when/if we have another one. i do know that i don’t feel bad for stopping by age one. i do know that i am a little uncomfortable when toddlers nurse. not that i think that cows milk is better, or that they will suffer phsycologically if nursed further than one year. i just feel that if the nursing is just for comfort, then i won’t do it. if they are eating food like everyone else around, there really isn’t a need to nurse. they are getting what they need. and if they’ve nursed for a year, they have gotten quite a bit from me already. i have to admit, i want my boobs back. i’m a little selfish.
i also think that the women that try and cannot nurse and those that choose not to nurse very long or at all, should not be put down or made to feel as they are not as good as the other mothers. i really don’t think that is a criteria that is appropriate, if/when there needs to be a judgement on whether or not that person is a good mother. (unfortunately i’ve done that and boy have i learned my lesson)
so, if there is a two year old that nurses in front of me, i’m going to be uncomfortable. but it isn’t my choice, and i don’t know every circumstance regarding that choice. so, i apologize in advance. i’ve been working hard on not judging others so much for their choices, and basing my judgements on what i would do. i’m not them, they aren’t me. as i get older, i’m learning a whole lot more about being tolerant and trying to see something from someone else’s perspective.
most people that have commented have all been women that nursed longer than a year, and the others have been women that haven’t nursed. just wanted to add something from the inbetween people.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:32 pm
holy cow my comment is long!!!! doesn’t seem like that in this little box….
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Great post. Beautifully expressed. My babies were 11 months (she weaned herself) 9 months (I weaned him too soon and still feel guilty 23 years later) and 21 months (to make up for short-changing her brother)
Loved every second of it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:04 pm
P.S. My two sisters and I (who were all having babies around the same time for several years) nursed each other’s kids when necessary. .. very handy.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:09 pm
Great comments–I love the honesty!
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:44 pm
I enjoyed this post. My babies were weaned at 8 months (I was expecting again, this was a traumatic weaning necessitated by my own health…), 12 months (he just up and quit) and 13 months (again traumatic as my baby had horrendous allergies and I was told never to nurse him again). After the last one, I felt more than a little misled/shortchanged on the allergist’s insistence. I should have changed my diet rather than weaned abruptly. I think that would’ve been better for my allergic one. I know better now.
Loved this post.
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 am
OK, this is a voice from another generation. My first was a marathon nurser. I told myself I would let her wean herself, but I never thought she would go for nearly 3 years. When she was almost 3 and I was pregnant with #2 my milk started to dry up and she still wanted to nurse. I asked her why she wanted to nurse when there was so little milk and she said “But mommy, I can pretend!”. She stopped shortly after that. Maybe when they are old enough to discuss it you should stop. Baby #2 nursed for about 23 months and I weaned baby three at 14 months to go on a trip. I tried to get him restarted when I got home, but he wasn’t interested. Baby 4 only nursed for one year. She was just too busy keeping up with the other kids to be bothered.
No one has mentioned this, but aside from the well documented health and nutrition benefits, I was one of those mothers that don’t ovulate while nursing. This gave me nicely spaced children and bragging rights to having had only 7 periods from the time I got married (in 1978) to the time baby 4 weaned herself 10 years later! Baby #1 is now a doctor on the baby catching side of the birth experience.
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:56 am
So many great responses! Thank you all for your honestly and your stories. It’s so wonderful when we can talk so openly about our experiences.
I don’t want this post to come across in any other tone except opening and accepting of every mother’s decision. To paraphrase, no man knows what is in our hearts.
I’m hoping that moms don’t let anyone tell them when to stop based on x,y,and z. I hope that they listen to their hearts, or to their babies, and go from there.
Nursing a toddler isn’t for everyone (that’s for sure!) and that’s OK. The health benefits, nutritionally and emotionally, are astounding–I hope that moms don’t wean because they’ve been told that it’s no longer nutritiously advantageous (it is) or that it’s not longer doing any good (immunities and human-specific brain building fats are still transmitted.)
Mary, what a great story! I like that part about discussions, haha. Here comes the TMI part (but you brought it up) I didn’t have a period until El Guille was 16 months old. I didn’t conceive until the very next month after we stopped nursing (although I’d been off the pill for a while.)
Most of all, I want every mom to be educated and make the decision, along with her baby, about what works best for them.
Nursing is a partnership. I want everyone to be at peace with their situation.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:43 am
First of all, writing is not my strong point and I have a tendency to ramble. I will try to be as succinct as I can.
I am currently still nursing both my kids. I never planned on nursing this long, but I believe in child led weaning, so I won’t wean until they want to.
My son is 3.5 years and my daughter is 13 months. I nursed while pregnant with no problem (I am fortunate to have an abundance of milk) and have never been ashamed that I am still nursing a toddler.
Yes, my son is almost 4, but like your child, he has NEVER pulled up my shirt, he always asks first and it’s really only once a day at this point (bedtime).
It is so helpful for comforting him when he is sick or hurt–he had to undergo bone surgery last month, and I don’t know what we would have done without having the option to nurse for comfort. Not to mention he barely ate for a week after the surgery, so I was glad he was getting something from nursing.
I can count on one hand the number of times he has been sick since birth, same with my daughter.
I will admit it’s not for everyone, and I do get the comments asking when I am going to wean and isn’t it hard to have to nurse two. Again, it’s not like I have newborn twins who are nursing every two hours. Even my 13 month old only nurses 3 times a day and a few times at night.
You can call me crazy and just group me with all the other AP moms who co-sleep, have non-medicated births, and do extended breastfeeding, don’t circumcise, etc., but I truly believe that it creates a strong emotional bond with your child that is so special and tender. I would hate to cut my child off from that emotional connection before they are ready to let go. Just my opinion.
And hey, I have only had one period since May 2003–I consider that a bonus.
(just a side note, I’ve been off the diet coke since I first became pregnant (2003), but it’s been my “name” for years and I just couldn’t give it up)
August 23rd, 2007 at 7:28 am
dietcokegirl–I love that you gave up the diet coke, but couldn’t give up the name!
Any volunteers to guest post about co-sleeping? I volunteer to host it!
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
This post was awesome. It was challenging with my first to look around and realize I was the only one nursing my son when he was almost two (and I was eight months pregnant)– but this time around I don’t care what anyone else thinks– I’m nursing until we’re done!
It’s so great to see other amazing women who enjoy nursing a toddler as much as I do!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Awesome. I’m glad I found this post. I was starting to feel sheepish in the mother’s room at church with my 13 month old.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Fascinating comments!
And Azucar, very sweet story.
The commenter who mentioned her guilt 23 years later reminded me of my mom. When I had my baby and was learning to nurse (it took me 10 weeks before I really felt like we were doing it right–no pain, etc.), my mom told me about weaning her 6 kids–they were at all different ages. A doctor told her to wean me when I was a year old, and she did, but she thinks I wasn’t ready and suspects now that behavioral problems stemmed from it. (all of which I have gotten over, I think
I haven’t thought a ton about extended breastfeeding. My husband is 100% supportive of nursing now, but has expressed reservation at going much past a year. I think that is a cultural thing though and could easily change–and it’s not like he’d try to stop me from it or anything. It will be interesting to see how it goes for Baby and me. So far, my baby and I have had a pretty good nursing relationship, with one brief semi-strike a few weeks before his first teeth came in, which got me in a little bit of a panic. I sort of feel like we’re just taking things as they go. I can easily see myself still nursing at 18 months. 2 or 2.5, I hadn’t thought about. I guess we will see!
I have to agree though–nursing is such a sweet bond. I am getting a little weepy now, just thinking about my little guy asleep in the next room!
August 28th, 2007 at 8:43 am
I’ve just embarked on the extended breastfeeding journey, and it is interesting nursing a 13mos old. It makes me feel glad to know I’m not the only one out there, especially since my own mother has told me to wean. Support is a great thing. We had some issues a bit back with bad latch at 11 mos, but things are starting to go much better now. Thanks a ton!
On a side note, I would be happy to pontificate about co-sleeping! It is something that, dad, baby and I all enjoy, and I will probably do with baby #2 when s/he decides to come along.
August 28th, 2007 at 9:38 am
Go for it. You can e-mail me your post and a link to your blog at henfeatherzATgmailDOT com. I love to have guest bloggers. Thanks!
August 29th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
I love reading your stuff. I nursed my baby until just after he turned two and I’m really glad I did. Sometimes I feel a bit insecure about telling certain people but I don’t really know why.
When I was looking to start weening I looked up an article on line about a woman who talked about nursing her 3 (almost 4) year old and the responses were incredible. Such strong passion going both ways and I was left feeling in awe about the major debate over something that is so not a big deal in many countries.
I’m pro breastfeeding.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Thanks again for all the excellent comments. For those of you might be interested, soybeanlover graciously took up the challeng of guest posting about another controversial parenting topic: co-sleeping. You may read all about it here.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
I breastfed my first for two years and my next two for 18 months each. I only stopped when I wanted to get pregnant with the next (I’m not one of those that can nurse and get pregnant). I had a hard time nursing all three of my children and had to go to countless lactation specialists. I know that it’s supposed to be “natural,” but it never came naturally to me until the second month or so. I have to admit that I only breastfed my babies that long because I’m too lazy to do bottles or feed them. I nurse until they can eat regular food off my plate. Never did formula, bottles or baby food. Too much work for this lazy mom.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Maybe I will start breastfeeding Jooj now. Is there a way I can get my milk to taste like GoGurt?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Also, when we adopted Jooj my mother in law wanted me to buy breast milk from the internet. I said no.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:15 am
Yen, tape a GoGurt to your chest and there you go, no fuss, no muss, different flavor everyday. Go Yoplait.
Breast milk from the Internet? I smell a new home business!
August 31st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
I’m of the school that thinks it’s weird nursing a baby over, say, 18 months. Although I’ve never thought of an actual AGE, really, or know any of the statistics or medical reasons. I just know what it looks like when I see a kid that *I* think is too old in the Nordstrom ladies room in the middle of the day. At home, your business, just don’t make me watch. As for the comment that their longer-than-I-would-like-to-see-nursed kid has been sick less than kids that stopped nursing earlier… there is NO medical way you can prove that it’s BECAUSE of breast feeding longer. But I’m not here to start a fight… just leaving my comment. Love ya!
August 31st, 2007 at 5:40 pm
No fighting, I promise, but there is a medical way you can prove it.
There are actual medical studies, published and peer reviewed (the gold standard), that do prove a causal link; that the longer children are nursed the fewer illnesses they contract.
That doesn’t mean that your specific child WILL or WON’T be more sick, just that on average and statistically, they are less ill than their less nursed counterparts. Each family will probably have an affirmative or a contrary tale as anecdotal evidence.
Every child and family are individual cases of course, and there are other factors. However, even when you control for the external factors there is still a causal relationship.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:05 am
My personal time for weening is somewhere between 18 months and 2-ish but I will say that I have been caught off guard while talking to another mom and her 2 plus year old comes up and lifts up her shirt and starts nursing. It was strange and a bit uncomfortable so I’d have to agree that there is a time and place. This also leads to more personal respect for mama–she needs her space. Boundaries are good and little ones can learn this early on.
Nursing rooms are for sure a place for nursing and if someone is not comfortable with the whole nursing scene than they can choose not to go there.
I’m sure my culture has molded much of what I think and what makes me uncomfortable– and this could be bottle feeding a baby from birth or nursing until a child is 4 years.
In the end, the common consent that nursing until about 2 years seems to have become standard with medical studies and personal experience to back the claims.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:52 am
Did I ever tell you all about the time I was in a mother’s nursing lounge nursing my baby and a dad came in to let his kid play in there? Gimme a break dude! It’s one thing to have some guy watch you nurse, but to be alone in a room with him behiind a closed door–that totally creeped me out about him. (That was over a decade ago and I’m still bugged, can you tell?)
September 5th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Ya, that is stranissimo– so creepy! Yikes.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:24 am
Thank you so much for such a great post about extended nursing. I am currently breastfeeding my 8 month old twins and I am hoping to let them self wean. This post is insightful, honest, and even-handed. Thank you so much – I really enjoyed reading this and I whole-heartedly second you on every point. On a side note — you are definitely cooler than Gwen Stefani in my book.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Wow, can I just say I could have written that. I too did it before Gwen made it cool lol. I always got people looking at me weird and was one of the moms at first who was embarrassed. My daughter got sick and wouldn’t drink anything other than my milk, the Drs told me the same as they did you, if she hadn’t been nursing, she would have been hospitalized for dehydration, I thank God everyday that he gave me that time to be with her like we were. It formed a bond that is soo special between she and I and I will never forget it, I think b/c I extended nursed with her, she is a lover and cuddler, she just wants to be held and the way I held her when she nursed.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Wow–twins. Way to go! Thanks for the great comments Meleah and Shannon. It’s been great to host such a wonderful discussion.
October 17th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Great post. I think I was the same as you: vague pre-conceived ideas about nursing followed by eye-opening real-life experience. I have to confess that I secretly loved witnessing the shock on people’s faces when they found out I was still nursing my toddler. So many people had assumed we’d stopped because they didn’t see it happen any more, but of course by then Sam was down to just 2-3 sessions a day. So people would ask me when I weaned Sam, and I’d respond “Oh, I haven’t. We’re still nursing.” And then I’d giggle on the inside while pretending not to notice their shock. Priceless.
The best was my sister, who’d had both of her children before I had mine. She was adamant (read: preachy as hell) that I breastfeed, and when I told her, while pregnant, that I’d give it a shot but I wasn’t committed to it if it didn’t work for me, she gave me such an earful. But then when Sam turned a year old, she assumed I’d automatically wean him, and when I said “Nah, I’m gonna see how long we can go,” she gave me ANOTHER earful. Some people!
October 17th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Try breastfeeding for over a year when everybody you knows bottle feeds. In fact before I had my first at 19, my mother and grandmother told me that the baby wouldn’t be able to get enough from the breast. Everyone thought I was weird. But my kids are now 14 and 8 and have never had the flu or an ear infection. Oh, and a baby that didn’t even weigh 5 pounds at birth, weighed 20lbs at 3 months. Looks like he got more than enough.
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:33 pm
i just want to say that i am amazed with the writing in this blog- i am only 20 years old and had my son at 19. out of eveyone of my friends thta have children i am teh only one that breastfeeds. my son is now 7 1/2 months and some peole even think that is a little long. so many people just expect me to drop it at his 1st birthday or something. i love it and i love how much he loves it:)my MIL is constantly asking me if i have weaned yet and i am so sick of it, i am somewhat of a shy person so i never know exacctly what to say except no. your blog was the most beautiful thing i have ever read. i too though i would wean at 6 mo, but about weeks 2 someone asked me why 6 mo? and i thought to myself. “yeah, why 6 mo?” then i used to be “weirded out” by extended breastfeeding until someone said something about babies not turning into calfs at age one. i have now educated myself to the fullest on breastfeeding and i wont let anyone stop me- thank you for sending me the link
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:52 pm
jillybeanz–”i have now educated myself to the fullest on breastfeeding and i wont let anyone stop me-”
That is wonderful. It’s all about being educated and choosing what you want and what works for you and your baby.
Best–
December 16th, 2007 at 4:55 am
I LOVED this post. I just weaned my 2.5 year old and wouldn’t have it any other way. Wonderful writing and I’m so glad you posted this!
xoxo
Morgan
January 22nd, 2008 at 8:31 pm
What a great post! It is great that you and your family did what was best for you.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:12 am
Guess what? Hate to be the bearer of bad news, it’s actually the honest truth, but by the time you get to that every other day at bedtime breastfeeding routine….uh, your “baby” is not really getting milk…just comfort. So, that’s fine, but at that point the “it’s so nutritious” line no longer works. I’m a HUGE proponent of breastfeeding, but let’s not confuse the reasons why a 2 1/2 year old is still “snacking” at the breast.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:51 am
So?
Why is comforting your child a bad thing? It’s not like I’m going to set him on a shield to go serve Sparta.
Besides, when he got down to every couple days, it was just a couple weeks before he quit entirely.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
No milk, NICU Nurse? I still felt let down and leaked when my toddler was nursing, even at the end. He was getting milk, my supply adjusted perfectly as he nursed less.
I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, but I’d encourage you to read over the Kellymom.com archives to find out more about extended nursing, I’d hate to see you spreading misinformation to mothers, especially in your influential position. Many mothers quit because of false or misleading information given to them by medical professionals.
Before you tell women that they aren’t providing nutrition (even though they are) perhaps you should have some research to back up your statements.
“Fat Content of Breast Milk Increases Over Time” from a study; American Academy of Pediatrics; September 2005 Pediatrics
January 25th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
“Not really getting milk?” Well I’m not exactly spouting out Gatorade.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
“One of the most important constituents of human milk is cholesterol. Formula does not,” Lawrence said. “There are many people who think that probably one of the problems with cholesterol today occurs because infants have not had any cholesterol in the first few months of life; perhaps the body doesn”t learn to deal with it. There are studies that show that young adults have much lower cholesterol levels if they were breast-fed than if they were bottle-fed.””
I find that really interesting. Not at all in a “formula is bad for babies” way, but just in a “this is interesting research and I wonder what else they are discovering about breastmilk” kind of way.
February 4th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Just clicked over here from a blog I stumbled on. Great post! And I agree about coming out of the closet – so here’s my story.
I nursed my first for 2.5 years. He self-weaned when I got pregnant with my twins. Nursed my twins for 4+ years each – including through my next pregnancy and tandemed (can you call it that with 3) when their younger sister was born. We’re coming to the tail end of our nursings now – my youngest is over 4. I’m proud of the nursing relationships with my kids and I will be sad when I am done.
I disagree completely w the NICU nurse – I recently pumped for my sister’s baby because of some medical issues. A little Fenugreek, a little oatmeal, a little extra nursings with my youngest and I was getting ounces. Unfortunately I don’t think medical professionals, even ones dealing with babies and young children are very educated about breastfeeding in general. I’m very grateful for the lactation consultants who helped me when we hit bumps in the road – but I also know that it was essential that I educate myself to counteract some of the myths I encountered from other medical professionals.
Keep shouting from the rooftops – you are doing nursing moms everywhere a service by helping them feel supported where ever they are on their nursing journey.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:58 am
I think that Cven is the perfect mom. Her child and she look so happy
March 26th, 2009 at 8:48 am
wow, this is very nice to read. i came online searching for… i’m not quite sure. my daughter will turn 4 in exactly 2 months. we still nurse, i was very adamant about letting her self wean. i had a baby about 5 months ago, and i was in heaven thinking about nursing the two of them. then, it happened, i joyously went to nurse the two of my loves and, i hated it. i don’t know if it was the feeling of the different suckling sensations or what. all i know is that i would cringe, tense up, it was pretty severe. i would just cry and to boot, because of the new baby, my daughter wanted to nurse more than even he did! well, with time and persistence, we worked it out, so nearly 5 months later, she still nurses-alot and i’m ready to throw her a weaning party. i’m a little bummed because i really wanted her to decide for herself but at this point, i just don’t enjoy it. if she would settle for a good before bedtime nurse, i would love it. but for her, it is all or nothing. she just won’t go for a one timer at night thing. and with me always nursing her brother, she’s got constant temptation. so, we have said, you will be 4 and you are a big girl now, and we are having a party. she seems to think this is fine…. we’ll see.
June 28th, 2010 at 1:16 am
Stellar site and theme, would love to see a bit more content though! Then again my puppet site hasn’t much either – Great post anyway, added your XML feed! Love this theme, too!